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Post autor: janusz » 2016-11-06, 22:52

KNECHT LX307 - good choice, i also use this filter. I write the same what Zielkq wrote, your filter is clean - i can say - like a new. Now i quote what Gaweł said when he saw my filter - it was after 3-4kkm - "o fuck". Yes, my filter was black...

I wonder if oil 5w30 or 0w30 would be better than 5w40 in the finnish climate - winter. I wonder about application 0W30 or 5W30 to my engine before first snow and low temperatures - ehhh i've got just 2,5-3kkm to interval change - it's hmm 1 month :]

In Poland we've got still temperature above 0, so Akai still standing on summer tyres :]

Totenkopf, i remind you - if you need any parts - just write :]

Zielkq, regular service - if anyone does 5-8 kkm per year - yes it's good time, but if someone does 2-3 per month........ you know this story......
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-11-07, 09:50

janusz, I have began to like parts made by Mahle. I can get them quite cheap, the oil and air filters were both 20€.

About changing the viscosity for winter, I have thought about it. The problem is that most of the oils of the mentioned viscosities sold here are of ACEA -C1, C2 and C3 spec. Those are designed for modern cars with particle filters and they don't have as much additives to protect against mechanical wear. I might be wrong, but that's how I remember it. 5W-40 is also cheaper. 0W-40 costs roughly +/- 40€ for a 4L can, so that's quite expensive for my liking.

I drive about 30kkm per year so that's 4 oil changes for me. I drive mostly short distances (15km one way) so the shorter interval is necessary. But if for some reason I suddenly get large amounts of money, I might consider changing the viscosity.

Which reminds me of the fact that I should also replace my cabin air filter :roll:

Since pictures always tell more than a thousand words, everyone should take a look at this link:

http://kixxengineoil.blogspot.fi/2015/0 ... ngine.html

All the oils have been heated (I don't know the temperature and time) and the test bottle has been tilted to reveal what kind of deposits have been left behind. Kinda makes you think.... After reading this I'm never going to use any oils from Shell again :lol:

Also I think that there is no such thing as a "long life" oil. Just look at all that sludge! No wonder SR's tend to have stuck scraper rings :lol:
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-11-26, 14:43

Totenkopf pisze:
The old air filter has even been "cleaned" twice, it used to be alot dirtier. It had seen 40kkm's of finnish dust.
Ehhh Your air filter was clean - nearly like a new. This is my filter after 1-1,2kkm - clean air in Wrocław :D
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-11-26, 15:23

janusz, I believe that the dirt is there because the filter actually caught it. I never saw such stains on the old Mann-Filter. Maybe it got all through it.
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Post autor: arczar » 2016-11-26, 15:46

Totenkopf pisze:
Since pictures always tell more than a thousand words, everyone should take a look at this link:

http://kixxengineoil.blogspot.fi/2015/0 ... ngine.html

All the oils have been heated (I don't know the temperature and time) and the test bottle has been tilted to reveal what kind of deposits have been left behind. Kinda makes you think.... After reading this I'm never going to use any oils from Shell again :lol:
Long life = I say NO!

But other pictures... IMHO fake/overdraw/whisper marketing.
These oils are burned.
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-11-27, 10:28

arczar, Longlife is just another manufacturer marketing scam. My friend drives a truck for a big finnish logistics company. He told me that Scania had increased their service interval up to 100000km. Or even higher, can't remember the exact number. Now I wanna see an engine oil that has any lubriating properties left at that point. The number of engine overhauls has gone up in the same ratio.

About those results, people seem to rely on known brands since they somehow seem to believe all the advertising they're told. The truth is that the big brands aren't actually that good and do not meet most of the specifictions they're given. Why? The number one reason is cost. Big companies like to cut down costs. At the current vast amounts of oil they produce per year, even a slight saving will prove it's worth in the end. They have the resources and technology to make the best oil of all times, but it would be too expensive for them to make enough profit. It's all about money in the end. It's basicly the same thing with every automotive (and other) product these days. So I don't think there's that much false information in the test I linked here. Some have been obviously manipulated to look far more better, but it proves also that people have been fooled by adverts and salesmen for a long time.

[ Dodano: 2016-12-01, 16:59 ]
Not much done, but alot of plans.

Added some extra ground wires from battery to chassis and chassis to engine block.

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Voltage drops are alot smaller now. I highly recommend.

I also picked up a surprise letter from the post office half an hour ago. Besides an oldschool hand written letter there was an attached file. The sender apologized me that the attached file was so big.

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janusz , If it was any smaller, I would need a magnifying glass :mrgreen: Thanks.
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Post autor: Vesp » 2016-12-01, 21:02

More electronics car has, more things may break down ;) Mind telling what's that circuit for?

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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-01, 21:08

Vesp, Since I replaced my odometer with a newer model (trip computer was broken in the old one), I needed to convert the ABS signal. Without the converter the abs light remains lit all the time. It doesn't really bother me, but try explaining that at the annual inspection....
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Post autor: Zielkq » 2016-12-01, 23:05

I think that you can remove this big metal piece:
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You know, weight reduction :mrgreen:

Or maybe you can mount air resonator? Here is my DIY: viewtopic.php?t=15277 In the picture 6 you can see free place to use screw and connect resonator and your metal element.
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-12-01, 23:43

Vesp pisze:More electronics car has, more things may break down ;)
This circuit is made by me, and you know what does it mean :d .
I still think, that this pcb is big :]

I hope that you were polite, because i think that in the near time the Santa Claus will visit your home and you'll get a x-mass box :p




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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-02, 04:18

Zielkq, I have the original resonator, just had to take it out of the way to install the ground wire. The bracket was taken from my old GX, this model didn't even have it when new.

janusz, I have actually stopped believing in Santa when I was 4- years old. Instead of reindeers he came with a Datsun 120a and somehow my uncle had disappeared :lol:

[ Dodano: 2016-12-05, 12:56 ]
I contacted the finnish importer of Archoil last week and managed to buy a 500ml bottle of AR2300 straight from him. I also tried to buy a can of BG44K straight from the importer, but they don't sell their products to private persons, only professionals. So I would have to pay for some idiot to pour that stuff into my gas tank. No thanks.

Anyway, got there today. The importer also sent me a sample of AR6200 EU. I'm not exactly sure how it is going to help me with anything, but We'll see. I might put it in after a couple tanks, since I'm using redline SI-1 at the moment. That stuff really works.

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[ Dodano: 2016-12-11, 16:01 ]
I might be a bit paranoid, but I think that the engine has become a bit less noisy at higher rpm. Archoil has been within the engine oil for about 500km's now. Just checked the oil and It doesn't seem so dirty, yet.
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-12-13, 21:54

Totenkopf, because your engine is clean inside :]
Today, the xmas box was sent. I hope, that this small gift would be ok :d

I wanted to add something else to this box, but i couldn't found it in good condition. So, you get it in the next box :]
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-17, 13:59

janusz, Thanks. I'm afraid that It won't make it here before christmas, since the Finnish post is having serious troubles with sorting all the packages. There have been serious delays and some people don't even receive mail every day. That's what you get when firing all the people and trying to replace them with french machines...

I managed to get a bit of work done today. As seen on my previous posts, janusz was kind enough to make me a converter to get the ABS- warning light working properly. Since I don't have the hands of a chinese child, I nearly destroyed the whole circuit while soldering wires to it. Luckily enough, I managed to rescue it after visiting a nearby aftermarket shop to buy a proper soldering iron. I got it installed, but decided to use self stripping connectors instead of doing any soldering.

Here's the pcb installed. Thank god I labeled all the wires when I did the swap.
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And the result, no more ABS- light!
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I also purchased a new oil pressure switch some time ago. The old one was prone to flicker the warning light at startup. Replaced the switch and everything works as it is supposed to. I bought a 0,2bar instead of 0,15bar.
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My next move is to sort out the fuel pressure issues once and for all. I have a hunch that the pump that I have now (Meat&Doria) is just rubbish and is not able to create enough flow. I also noticed while driving that the battery voltage dropped from 13,7v to 13,3v after about 15km's (headlights on and blower at second speed). I believe that the pump heats up for some reasond and begins to draw alot more current.
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-12-18, 01:39

Totenkopf I hope that you get a box before the xmas :] I think, that the box will be in Finland/Helsinki in Monday, so in Tuesday/Wednesday should be in Kuopio :d

But back to the the main topic - now you know, why i said you - make a label on each wire :d I happy that i don't see this orange indicator. Believe me - when i saw it on the photo i had a ...... in short - i couldn't look at it (i also don't have a hands, like a chinese child).
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-19, 16:45

I decided to do something about the odometer illumination. I've been planning to install a plasma set just as soon as I can afford one. For now I have to just stick to cheap led bulbs. The blue ones were just too dim and the needles we're barely visible in the dark. I decided to swap them to red ones.

Of course, it looks like shit on the photo, much better in real life.
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I've been planning something like this:
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I also thought about this one, but I'm not sure if it has all the trip computer markings, since they don't have a photo of the GT model.
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For now the only issue with the odometer is the airbag light. It does not illuminate at all. I got so far as checking the connections, they we're fine. I must get better leads to my voltmeter so I can get a proper ground connection.
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-12-20, 00:11

IMO - I think that you should stay with oem odometer :]

Zielkq and Vesp changed the illumination of odometer. How it looks like, you can check in their topics.

Airbag indicator - hmmmm if i remember, we talked about it :]
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Post autor: smeru » 2016-12-20, 08:51

Look on MoMan.pl
They have also english version of there web site. It is not so cheap but if you want...
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-20, 09:38

smeru, that last picture is taken from moman. They just don't have any pics of the 240km/h&9000rpm version, so I'm suspicious if the background is the right one (as in the picture above).
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Post autor: Zielkq » 2016-12-20, 11:31

Totenkopf, You can see my odometer in my topic:
viewtopic.php?p=376778#376778 ( i use the same camera settings)
And here is my solution: viewtopic.php?p=376785#376785
In my opinion it's very cheap mod and one of the best mods in my car! Simply&cheap. :evil:
(yesterday I used led strip to illumination knob ventilation(?) :)
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-20, 12:37

Zielkq, I noticed that and immedietly took some led strip from work. Since I work in a company that makes led signs, so I have more than plenty of parts available. How powerful is the led strip that you used? Mine is about 14,4W/m. Did you power it from the odometer circuit, or somewhere else? There's still the issue of the needles being too dark for my liking.
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Post autor: Zielkq » 2016-12-20, 14:52

Totenkopf, I removed all bulbs and connected to odometer illumination circut (using empty place after bulb). I didn't use any resistors or something else.
The needles being too dark? Hm... In my opinion is OK (it's very difficult to show it in the picuture 8-)
Maybe using combination of led-bulbs and led strips will be better? I don't know. For my it's OK.

It's very difficult to say, that what kind of led strips i used - it was about 2 year ago, but i see in my mail archive that I bought two different led strips:
- 120 smd/1meter (it was lighter, but in my opinion the temperature of this led stripe was too high)
- 60 smd/1meter (in my picture :-> )
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-20, 15:20

Zielkq, I believe that yours is the 4.8W/m version. I think I will try out the more powerul version. It does get pretty warm, but not enough to melt anything. If you think thats hot, you obviously haven't tried out the 24V version. Now that's bright.

[ Dodano: 2016-12-22, 19:00 ]
Santa had brought me a shipment while I was at work.
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Thanks janusz

Merry christmas to everyone!
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Post autor: Zielkq » 2016-12-22, 19:31

Verry good Santa! So.. i'm waiting for new photos (with new parts) :)
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Post autor: arczar » 2016-12-22, 19:52

Suprise! ;-)
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-12-23, 12:21

Like Zielkq, I'm waiting for new photos with new parts :d

Also Merry Christmas and new crazy ideas in new year :d
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-23, 13:43

Zielkq, janusz, There will be photos, I promise. Now I'm just gonna lay back and enjoy the peace and quiet without any hurry. Some people are lucky enough to have a day off work at monday (me included), so then I will have time to work with the car.
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-12-26, 11:02

So, we're waiting for photos :d
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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-26, 15:04

Here we go.

Had some time today to work with the car.

First of all, I decided to forget about the plasma dials for now and used the led strip. This photo show's the illumination with the dimmer in the lowest brightness.
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And here at full power. The plastics around the odometer aren't installed on this one. Notice how even the smallest scratches on the cover are visible. Enough brightness for a migraine seizure.
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Rear mudflaps installed. Didn't have the original screws so I just used some regular ones and a m6 bolt to attach it.
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Front for comparison.
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Sunglass holder.
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Anti-slip mat.
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Don't even know what this cover should be officially called, but here it is installed.
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And finally a couple of overview pictures.
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Didn't have enough time for the poly bushings, but will be swapping them in the near future. I am also saving money for new springs on every corner. Already have new shocks.
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Post autor: janusz » 2016-12-27, 22:40

Totenkopf, sorry, but i didn't want to send you rusty screws.....
Today i wanted to install my mudflaps.... but i didn't have time...... Sunglass holder - it's a great place to hide pen/ballpoint/pencil. Hmmm it sounds like one of the polish adage - haversack as the name suggests is used for carrying grenades.

Hmmm why you didn't make the last photo much earlier - great photo to calendar :]
赤い 霊 czyli 日産プリメーラP11GT -> viewtopic.php?t=12560

pije by paść ...
... padam by wstać ...
... wstaje by pić ...
... pije by żyć

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Post autor: Totenkopf » 2016-12-28, 08:56

janusz, I think that you have better looking cars in Poland than mine for your calendar :D
https://www.drive2.com/r/nissan/470523357796762534/

VAZ 21013 - summer car
P11 SE SR20DEH AP0 - current
P11 GT SR20DE KH3 - for spare parts
P11 GX SR20De AJ4 - sold
P10 LX SR20Di AG2 - sold

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